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Massive BHP takeover news…. Rejected

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 5:46 am
by Hydrogen

Re: Massive BHP takeover news…. Rejected

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 7:17 am
by Babyizzyboo06!
Thanks for the update on OXL Hydrogen!! And they do not need to come after GGP at 15.5p either!!!!

Re: Massive BHP takeover news…. Rejected

Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2022 10:18 am
by lebugue-addick
This sentence grabbed my attention for obvious reasons:

"The Board (of OZ minerals) had also been advised by BHP that it had accumulated an interest in OZ Minerals shares via derivative instruments amounting to an interest of less than 5 per cent".

Re: Massive BHP takeover news…. Rejected

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:33 pm
by LoggyLogbot
Hi LA, I'm actually surprised that comment hasn't attracted many replies - it's one of the most eye-opening statements ( for me anyway! ) that I've seen for a while. The phrase 'you learn something every day' has never been so apt.

Re: Massive BHP takeover news…. Rejected

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:49 pm
by mushroomkid
Nice spot LA. 'Derivative instruments'. Is that a fancy way of saying 'slimey, underhand and under the radar' purchases'?? Glad they got the bid rejected and yes, it does make you wonder what 'derivative instruments' are being employed to manipulate our share.

Re: Massive BHP takeover news…. Rejected

Posted: Tue Aug 09, 2022 10:34 pm
by Bottle Rocket - Liam
LoggyLogbot wrote: Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:33 pm Hi LA, I'm actually surprised that comment hasn't attracted many replies - it's one of the most eye-opening statements ( for me anyway! ) that I've seen for a while. The phrase 'you learn something every day has never been so apt.
We discussed it a fair bit on telegram, mostly to get to the bottom of what they did.

We took a view that they took shares in company B, which meant they had a holding by proxy in company A.

Bit like NCM taking 5% of Starvest,

Obviously, we could be wrong. - Happy to be educated.

Re: Massive BHP takeover news…. Rejected

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2022 10:08 am
by Hydrogen
Not sure what you concluded in telegram…

But I conclude the following…. Bhp acquired a 5% position in OZ minerals by stealth tactics.

The idea of them owning the stock via a 3rd party like SVE is flawed IMO as they would have no control over SVE and not be the beneficial owners of record of the Oz minerals stock.

Whatever derivative instrument they have used BhP must have the controlling beneficial ownership

Re: Massive BHP takeover news…. Rejected

Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:51 am
by JerryS
It’s almost certainly a CFD, a contracts for difference. It’s an otc contract where the bank, broker or mkt maker buys the shares and then does the cfd, transferring the economic benefit to BHP. It’s very very common practice and nothing to get excited about.