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Decline Progress
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:03 pm
by Masham Ale
I don't seem to be able to reply to the reference thread so have raised the point here.
Thanks RA for the data but looking at past metres per shift graph, the worst projection line at 3m per shift looks quite optomistic.
Even 1m per shift might seem hopeful.
What are you basing the 3m, 4m, 5m per shift progress lines on please?
Re: Decline Progress
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:19 pm
by Spondy
MA, I can't reply to that topic either.
These are the decline numbers I've collated, their source and my approximation of metres per week. Some might have been copied from another post somewhere, possibly on LSE, incase you recognise them!
Decline advanced over 120m between commencing on 14/05/21 and GGP report on 09/09/21
211m on 20/10/21 (GGP report)
237m on 24/11/21 (NCM report) advanced approximately 26m in 5 weeks, 5 metres per week
245m on 01/12/21 (GGP report) advanced approximately 8m in 1 week, 8 metres per week
277m on 21/01/22 (GGP report) advanced approximately 32m in 7 weeks, 5 metres per week
296m on 25/02/22 (GGP report) advanced approximately 19m in 5 weeks, 4 metres per week
313m on 20/04/22 (NCM report) advanced approximately 17m in 8 weeks, 2 metres per week
377.5m on 31/05/22 (GGP RNS) advanced approximately 64m in 6 weeks, 11 metres per week
489m on 13/07/22 (GGP RNS) advanced approximately 111m in 7 weeks, 16 metres per week
RA, The blue line appears to touch or pass the 500 metres, do you have a data point later than 13th July 2022?
Your graph shows a target line at about 2750 metres. Is that the length of the spiral to get to the top of the orebody rather than a depth below ground level.
Re: Decline Progress
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:39 pm
by RationalAssessor
Hi Spondy
We agree on all data points except the last. Not sure where I got it from, however, I have a data point of 520M in the week of 29 Jul.
As far as the final depth and length, I have been working off the original statments that Hav is under 800M of cover and the decline would be 1 in 7. Hence a decline length of 2800. However, I have since been corrected on TG that decline length is more likely 2500M. Byrnecut themselves say that decline is 2600 on their website.
Will further update once we get more data - it's clearly not an exact science but, at the mo, folks (FUDsters) are saying that the reassessment by NCM on the decline progress means that they are going to push back further from 2nd Half 2024. The graph was meant to show that the reassessment was more likely to pull the decline completion forward into 1st Half 2024 (ie Jul ro Dec 2023).
ATB RA.
Re: Decline Progress
Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:42 pm
by RationalAssessor
Hi Masham Ale
Yep, 3M per shift does look optomistic based upon previous performance. However, we should now be through the permian layer and using explosives to blast our way through rock which delivers better results. I'm also advised by those in the know that 3M should be achievable, 4M is possible.
We'll get a much better indicator in a couple of weeks with the drilling results so will reassess and repost the graphs then.
ATB RA
Re: Decline Progress
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 10:34 am
by Masham Ale
What do you think it costs per day making the decline?
Re: Decline Progress
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 12:25 pm
by Bamps21
One of these roadheaders was being touted around earlier on but the soft stuff meant it wouldn’t be viable.
If one of these does come in, 4 metres will be a piece of cake, only time it will stop is for the shot blasting .
More chance of having a computerised guidance system on board than the method being used at the moment.
Most of you won’t realise how difficult it is to guide these declines in the right direction it takes time especially on a spiral curve, not many engineers that I’ve met know how to set a spiral shape out especially down hill.
Computerised equipment will speed things up.
Remember accuracy is the key here , there’s shafts to meet up with
Re: Decline Progress
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:05 pm
by Acechaser
Bamps is that the machine they are using.
Re: Decline Progress
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 3:56 pm
by Bamps21
Hi Acechaser
Not at the moment
Re: Decline Progress
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 7:08 pm
by Acechaser
Well methinks we need one of dem big boys.
Re: Decline Progress
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 8:06 pm
by speedymeadie
Hi Bamps. That m/c looks like a double tailed diplodocus. ATB Speedy
Re: Decline Progress
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2022 9:41 pm
by Francis
An engineer told me before he died, ah-hum…
Re: Decline Progress
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:55 am
by Bamps21
Hi Francis
Can you explain your remark or are you having a dig
Re: Decline Progress
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2022 9:19 am
by Masham Ale
Bamps21 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 8:55 am
Hi Francis
Can you explain your remark or are you having a dig
I think it's just a reference to a song