Goldilocks for Greatland

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Goldilocks for Greatland

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Why does the gold price matter ...

Because it transforms Telfer from a near bankrupt loss making basket case INTO a massive power house top 3/4/5 Australian producer.

All else equal - nothing matters more to GGP for the next 2 years than the gold price (and producing decent replacement ore)

A year ago I wrote a post on here entitled 'Welcome to Goldilocks for Gold' - https://www.ggpchat.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=855 where I outlined the case as to why gold had to go a lot higher.

This is why the situation that's incoming is one that is about to shock the world (apart from our resident Speedy 'Bunker' Meady that is 8-) ) : I'm now seeing $5000 to $8000 gold emerging, faster than most can believe. Today FT says Gold glitters as the unimaginable becomes imaginable. And if we can have 5000 gold and we can have $100,000 bitcoin... then TBF, why can't we have $10,000 or 20,000 or 50k gold?

I don't talk of exponential rises in anything (bar the negative impact of social media on teens and children). BUT What I do see is reality: a world economy that has SO not recovered from the lost decade scale economic shock of the global covid shutdown, fraught with political unrest and change, and whose people are struggle daily with the brutal daily impact of inflation and high interest rates - inflation that wont ever be reversed - so saying it’s slowing seems simply disingenuous and frankly makes no odds... (fact is Prices are never going back). Meanwhile governments have been hell bent delusional on pretending 'the recovery was progressing well'. The truth was far from that. Mortgage rates have more or less frozen the housing market stone dead. China has collapsed, And where is our wealth all tied up…? And while nominal house prices are up, Inflation adjusted housing prices are back 2003 levels. big jobs loses are now a growing theme'. This morning My wife's new spectacles cost almost £700 (she an astigmatism) but ffs. I literally spat my cornflakes out.

BUT yes the Gold price is going nuts.

Some interesting articles are now appearing in mainstream media , attempting to explain this move; talking of tariffs and other such distractions - but some appear to be contemplating the impossible. That thing the 'gold bugs' have professed for years….

Because some of the thinking , is for Trump to revalue US gold.

Todays FT for example debates the situation succinctly: hTTps://www.ft.com/content/f6459ed1-8a6 ... e8546912f0

Thinking the article through , 1) it makes total sense for the US to allow or to push gold a lot higher, before revaluing it to the asset side at $2,800 an ounce — this could inject $800bn into the Treasury General Account. (Obviously $5k and gold could inject $1.6 trillion and 10k gold $3.4 trillion ).

2)“House Republicans are mulling a massive tax and spending bill that would add “up to $5.5tn of net primary deficit increases” and “boost interest costs by about $1.3tn over the next decade” = ie spark bond market alarm this spring = market buys gold.

3) Luke Groman’s point: “The contradiction could be resolved if the Treasury tolerated, or enabled, gold to keep surging” IE Gold likely to be the key pivot in the new system Trump is trying to engineer - and it would perhaps seems to support the idea floated by republican FED reserve nominee Judy Shelton - of “the new gold backed long dated Treasury bond” but in coordination with a deliberate dollar devaluation = all good for US industry and good for gold = good for the US balance sheet and debt situation.

4) This all Keeps the 'wheels on the wagon' and the world buying US debt. Then, if Brics and China and now the US see an increased role for Gold = more competition for gold resources = Gold prices strengthen. A case of if you can't beat them join them - ie US behaves fiscally 'better' and reasserts the reserve currency's status in being part backed by gold. And the higher gold goes, the better it is for the government balance sheet.

So all roads appear to lead to a much higher gold price.

And what that means of Greatland - huge lower grade high volume deposit like TELFER. Thats music my your ears... because low grade high volume producing deposits like Telfer have the highest torque to the gold price.

It’s perfect ... it’s literally Goldilocks for Greatland.


https://www.ft.com/content/f6459ed1-8a6 ... e8546912f0

Gold glitters as the unimaginable becomes imaginable

Another week, another record high for the gold price. Cue wild celebration among goldbugs — and frantic speculation from everyone else about the reason for the explosion in demand for the precious metal.

Geopolitical turmoil is one obvious explanation. Inflation concerns amid insane tariff dramas is another. However, there is a third, less noticed, issue bubbling away too: some hedge fund contemporaries of Scott Bessent, the hedgie-turned-US Treasury secretary, are speculating about a revaluation of America’s gold stocks.

Currently, these are valued at just $42 an ounce in national accounts. But knowledgeable observers reckon that if these were marked at current values — $2,800 an ounce — this could inject $800bn into the Treasury General Account, via a repurchase agreement. That might reduce the need to issue quite so many Treasury bonds this year.

This week such chatter intensified after Bessent both pledged to “monetise the asset side of the US balance sheet” — in other words, to focus on assets as much as liabilities — while also promising to lower 10-year Treasury yields.

“Re-marking . . . to current market value would mechanically deleverage the US balance sheet,” says David Teeters, of IESE business school, who notes that if gold prices keep rising, this potential blessing swells. Or as Larry McDonald, a libertarian analyst, notes: “It is time to get creative around . . . Uncle Sam’s balance sheet.”

Will this ever happen? I don’t know. Nor, I suspect, does Bessent, since it is the ever-capricious Donald Trump who sets policy. But the fact that this wild speculation is swirling underscores three key points.

First, investors know that Bessent has an incentive to be creative, given the scary fiscal hole. House Republicans are mulling a massive tax and spending bill that would add “up to $5.5tn of net primary deficit increases” and “boost interest costs by about $1.3tn over the next decade” according to the Committee for a Responsible Fiscal Budget. That could spark bond market alarm this spring, if not a Congressional revolt from populist nationalists. And that hole cannot be plugged just by smashing a tiny agency like USAID (a grotesque move), or letting Elon Musk halt federal payments (also outrageous). “While there are potential cost savings, the only way to create fiscal responsibility is with substantial tax increases,” argues Robert Rubin, former Treasury secretary.

Second, Bessent needs currency tricks as well as fiscal ones. As JD Vance, the vice-president, told Congress last year, Trump’s cabal considers the dollar to be wildly overvalued — to the degree that it is hollowing out the country’s industrial base. They attribute that to its reserve currency status.

But while they would prefer a weaker currency, Trump also wants to retain that global dollar dominance and Bessent himself knows that tariffs will probably strengthen its value.

That makes their policy seem bizarrely contradictory. But some market commentators, such as Luke Gromen, think the contradiction could be resolved if the Treasury tolerated, or enabled, gold to keep surging against the dollar. “Gold is likely to be a key pivot [for] the new system the Trump administration is clearly trying to engineer,” he says.

Many mainstream economists would disagree, but that just illustrates the third key point: the realm of possible policymaking — the so-called Overton window — is now widening. To grasp this, look at a dense investor memo written last year by Stephen Miran, who heads Trump’s Council of Economic Advisers, which is the most thoughtful explanation of Trumpian financial economics that I have seen (echoing ideas largely endorsed by Bessent, among others).

Miran argues that investors should expect tariffs to be used initially as a dramatic negotiating tactic (as they were this week). They will later be deployed as a longer term means of raising revenue and demarcating geopolitical allies. He also contends that the dollar’s reserve status and American military dominance are so tightly entwined that the White House could force countries who enjoy the US security umbrella to finance its deficit by buying very long-dated treasury bonds.

More strikingly, Miran predicts that while tariffs will initially strengthen the dollar, the greenback should eventually fall, even if the White House defends its reserve currency status. How? He outlines several tactics that could be used, including “voluntary” co-operation from the Federal Reserve and a multilateral dollar devaluation accord.

Such ideas might seem mad. And Miran acknowledges that the policy “path” to implement tactics like these “without material adverse consequences” is “narrow”. Quite so. “If they start playing games with a weakening dollar, that is highly risky,” says Rubin. But what Miran’s memo shows is that once-unimaginable ideas are now becoming entirely imaginable. And not just Trump’s threat to invade Greenland.

Thus it is no surprise that gold is outperforming bitcoin right now; nor that traders are flying gold bars from London vaults to New York. Welcome to a financial Alice-in-Wonderland world where buying bullion seems almost sane.

gillian.tett@ft.com
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And not a hour after my initial post comes this from Willem;

Willem Middelkoop

A New Gold Revaluation

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Willem Middelkoop: Some financial analysts (Luke Gromen) and hedge fund managers, including contemporaries of Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent have speculated about revaluing the official US gold reserve to current market values. Currently the US, just like the IMF, values gold at the historical price of just $42 per ounce. Marking gold at $2,800 per ounce could inject approximately $800 billion into the Treasury General Account, providing fiscal flexibility for the government.

Discussions about a possible US gold revaluation have been circulating for a long time, particularly in financial and economic circles, though the US government or Treasury has confirmed no official policy changes.

This week even the Financial Times discussed the possibility of a gold revaluation, noting that it is being considered in financial circles as "the unimaginable becomes imaginable."

The idea of revaluing gold has historical precedent, such as President Franklin D. Roosevelt's actions in 1933, when gold was revalued from $20.67 to $35 per ounce after confiscation.

Senator Cynthia Lummis has even proposed revaluing US-held gold and using the proceeds to purchase Bitcoin. This idea remains theoretical and has not been formally adopted.

In several interviews in the last few years, I have talked about the gold revaluation thesis and in The Big Reset (2013), I have written the following:

In his first book, Currency Wars, Jim Rickards describes a scenario in which a new gold-backed dollar could be introduced in the US:

A ‘new’ gold dollar will be created at ten times the value of the old dollar. A windfall profits tax of 90% would be imposed on all private gains from the upward revaluation of gold.

According to Rickards, such a gold revaluation, including a new gold-backed dollar, is one of the last instruments available to the Fed to avoid a total collapse of the dollar system. A revaluation may be needed because the Fed is quite insolvent, with a balance sheet that has grown to almost $3,500 billion. Surprisingly, the value of all international financial reserves of the US is only around 150 billion (including $11 billion in gold reserves), slightly more than Mexico’s reserves and significantly less than Algeria’s ($190 billion). To put this into perspective, China has some $3,500 billion in fijinancial reserves, while Japan has over $1,300 billion.

One of the reasons for this low number is that the US, just like the IMF, still values gold at the historical price of just $42 per ounce. This is unusual because the ECB and many other central banks value their gold reserves at market prices. Perhaps the US government hopes to spread the message that gold is a metal with little value, while the dollar is the value of choice. A revaluation of the 9,000 tonnes of US gold reserves to $8,000 per ounce would mean over $2.2 trillion in gold assets instead of $11 billion at the time of writing.

China wants to increase its gold reserves ‘in the shortest time’ possible to at least 8,000 tonnes. This amount would put the Chinese on a par with the US and Europe on a gold-to-GDP ratio. This would open the way for a possible joint US-EU-China gold revaluation to support the financial system when needed. Such a reset could also be backed by Russia, which has accumulated over 1,000 tonnes, most of it since the start of the credit crisis in 2007. The UK only has some 300 tonnes of gold left after selling a large portion of their reserves near the bottom in 1999 to help the US hold the price of gold down.305 A study shows that most of China’s gold imports in 2013 came from London vaults. This gold was fijirst refijined in Switzerland before it moved, probably permanently, from West to East. The Chinese realize that the US could surprise the world with a unilateral gold revaluation. Wikileaks revealed a cable, sent from the US Embassy in Beijing in early 2010 to Washington, in which a Chinese news report about the consequences of such a dollar devaluation was quoted:

If we use all of our foreign exchange reserves to buy US Treasury bonds, then when someday the US Federal Reserve suddenly announces that the original ten old US dollars are now worth only one new US dollar, and the new US dollar is pegged to the gold – we will be dumbfounded.

Gold revaluations or fiat money devaluations have been debated by many experts, as it may be the only way to prevent worldwide hyperinflation. According to Ben Davies, co-founder and CEO of Hinde Capital, revaluing gold to back up and reset the monetary system could be one of the least disruptive ways out of the credit mess.

Tocqueville Gold Fund manager John Hathaway has also discussed the prospect of a serious and sudden revaluation of gold. In an interview, he remarked that he was afraid that people might lose confidence in central banking much sooner than most people think. Hathaway knows what he is talking about, since he built his fund and fortune during the gold bull market of the 1970s when another crisis of (dollar) confijidence was being fought.
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And you know what happens…? if Scott Bessent and Trump revalue the US reserve Gold mark to market?

From 42 to 2900 or whatever per o.

Gold will 100% Explode higher. Because it’s true value has been fundamentally re-acknowledged by the world order.
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Hi H2,
they will have to do a full and transparent audit of the gold reserves, some say there is none left, while others say a large portion has been leased out and that's the reason why so much gold is flowing back to USA. If they back a gold bearing bond then an audit has to take place or it will not happen, and that gold will have to be put to one side and audited on a yearly base at least. DM
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Ok folks here's a fairly high level take on this US gold revolution point:

HEDGEYE on Friday's macro show hit on a subscriber questions about the implications of Scott Bessents comments on the US monetising the US gold reserve assets:

Now remember Hedgeye advise and directly influence institutional clients and fund managers running some $1 trillion of assets under management - so when these guys talk about something; it's serious sh*t and it resonates:

They immediately make the collateral link to Judy Shelton's idea for a new 50 year gold backed treasury bond. (something which certainly didn't pass me by).

And Mcullough's comments "what happens to gold if they Mark to Market?" immediately he retorts: "Gold keeps doing what it's been doing and it makes multiple all time highs"


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As I say, Hedgeye subscribers (mostly institutional fund managers) who run around 1$ trillion in AUM: So, basically, this is - well - fkn big :

hTTps://x.com/Hedgeye/status/1890481171366088724

"If you're going to monetize the U.S. balance sheet, what does that mean? And they're establishing a U.S. sovereign wealth fund for the first time—what could go in that? Well, Bitcoin, gold, whatever they damn well please," McCullough explains.

"This [Scott Beset] is a capitalist at Treasury, not an MMT [Modern Monetary Theory] socialist. This is a very different approach, and people should open their minds to where this could lead."

Hmmm..., 'OPEN YOUR MIND AS TO WHERE THIS LEADS'.

And it certainly doesn't lead to the minting of some absurd $1trillion platinum coin >>>>>>>>> But $10k gold or$ 20k gold... ??? JUST Maybe.
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